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		<title>By: Marilynn Byerly</title>
		<link>http://www.ninc.com/blog/index.php/archives/us-versus-them/comment-page-1#comment-26484</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilynn Byerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t damn an entire industry and its authors after sampling one book.

Sure, lots of junk is out there in self-pub land, but there&#039;s a lot of junk coming from the major publishers, too.  

It&#039;s a rare big publisher genre book I read these days which wouldn&#039;t be much improved by a major edit or the help of a book doctor.  

The editors from the big publishers don&#039;t have the time to edit because they have to do so many other things, and their houses have cut staff to the bare bones but don&#039;t cut the number of titles they put out.  

If I were a big publisher author, I&#039;d pay a private editor to vet my story for errors and problems in the same way as the self-pubs should because the errors are blamed on the author, not the staff at the publisher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t damn an entire industry and its authors after sampling one book.</p>
<p>Sure, lots of junk is out there in self-pub land, but there&#8217;s a lot of junk coming from the major publishers, too.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a rare big publisher genre book I read these days which wouldn&#8217;t be much improved by a major edit or the help of a book doctor.  </p>
<p>The editors from the big publishers don&#8217;t have the time to edit because they have to do so many other things, and their houses have cut staff to the bare bones but don&#8217;t cut the number of titles they put out.  </p>
<p>If I were a big publisher author, I&#8217;d pay a private editor to vet my story for errors and problems in the same way as the self-pubs should because the errors are blamed on the author, not the staff at the publisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue MacKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue MacKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember my first completed manuscript. It was rejected because the story wasn&#039;t strong enough, but at least the grammar and spelling wasn&#039;t an issue. How easy it would be to put THAT book up on line but I&#039;d be so embarrassed because it really wasn&#039;t good enough to be published. And this is the problem - we are competing for the readers&#039; dollars against these books. Not sure what we can do though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember my first completed manuscript. It was rejected because the story wasn&#8217;t strong enough, but at least the grammar and spelling wasn&#8217;t an issue. How easy it would be to put THAT book up on line but I&#8217;d be so embarrassed because it really wasn&#8217;t good enough to be published. And this is the problem &#8211; we are competing for the readers&#8217; dollars against these books. Not sure what we can do though.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indiana Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because publishers never publish books with typos, formatting errors or stupid plots.  No, it&#039;s only the unwashed masses of wretched indie writers who threaten to be &quot;the hack writer(s) who will damage us all over time.&quot;

I know that&#039;s not true. I pass over books like that on retail shelves every day.  I realize the odds are higher among self-published titles, but the reaction is the same: reading something else.  I fail to see the &quot;damage&quot; part of the equation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because publishers never publish books with typos, formatting errors or stupid plots.  No, it&#8217;s only the unwashed masses of wretched indie writers who threaten to be &#8220;the hack writer(s) who will damage us all over time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know that&#8217;s not true. I pass over books like that on retail shelves every day.  I realize the odds are higher among self-published titles, but the reaction is the same: reading something else.  I fail to see the &#8220;damage&#8221; part of the equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Rowe</title>
		<link>http://www.ninc.com/blog/index.php/archives/us-versus-them/comment-page-1#comment-26460</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very inspiring post, Dianne. I&#039;m always shocked at unrealistic people are when they decide to write their own book. They think it only takes a few weeks to write and publish it - then they&#039;re raking in the cash.

Um...no.

It takes hard work, dedication and hard work to write a good book. Did I mention hard work? :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very inspiring post, Dianne. I&#8217;m always shocked at unrealistic people are when they decide to write their own book. They think it only takes a few weeks to write and publish it &#8211; then they&#8217;re raking in the cash.</p>
<p>Um&#8230;no.</p>
<p>It takes hard work, dedication and hard work to write a good book. Did I mention hard work? <img src='http://www.ninc.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chicki Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicki Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why you should ALWAYS download the free sample (usually the first 10% of the book). There are lots of excellent e-books out there, and sample is the best way know whether or not to order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why you should ALWAYS download the free sample (usually the first 10% of the book). There are lots of excellent e-books out there, and sample is the best way know whether or not to order.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia D'Alba (aka ArkansasCyndi)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia D'Alba (aka ArkansasCyndi)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved Donnell&#039;s book. 

Like you, I&#039;ve bought $.99 books. Rarely have I found one worth my dollar. 

I get frustrated at new writers who won&#039;t take the time to learn the craft...who are so impatient to publish that they can&#039;t wait to get an answer back from a reputable publisher...who see dollar signs in self-publishing and rush out there to throw up something. They are missing the point that authors making $$ at self-publishing are mostly seasoned writers who aren&#039;t making the newbie mistakes and who know how to tell a story. 

Good topic]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Donnell&#8217;s book. </p>
<p>Like you, I&#8217;ve bought $.99 books. Rarely have I found one worth my dollar. </p>
<p>I get frustrated at new writers who won&#8217;t take the time to learn the craft&#8230;who are so impatient to publish that they can&#8217;t wait to get an answer back from a reputable publisher&#8230;who see dollar signs in self-publishing and rush out there to throw up something. They are missing the point that authors making $$ at self-publishing are mostly seasoned writers who aren&#8217;t making the newbie mistakes and who know how to tell a story. </p>
<p>Good topic</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Shouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Shouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You got off easy, Dianne. I&#039;ve read some $2.99 books with those same kinds of errors. I find myself staying away from the indie writers, at any price. It&#039;s too frustrating, in the way editors must feel as they wade through slush piles.

I, too, read Donnell&#039;s book and found it a page-turner. Thanks for sharing some of the steps on her journey. You&#039;ve inspired me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got off easy, Dianne. I&#8217;ve read some $2.99 books with those same kinds of errors. I find myself staying away from the indie writers, at any price. It&#8217;s too frustrating, in the way editors must feel as they wade through slush piles.</p>
<p>I, too, read Donnell&#8217;s book and found it a page-turner. Thanks for sharing some of the steps on her journey. You&#8217;ve inspired me!</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgive erros -  should read:
will we buy?

hanging head in shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive erros &#8211;  should read:<br />
will we buy?</p>
<p>hanging head in shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The allure of a 99cent book in today&#039;s economy is strong.  I&#039;ve only bought one or two.  The big question isn&#039;t will be buy a 99cent book, but will be by the NEXT book by that 99cent author?

I am embarrassed to say that there was a one day special on Donnell&#039;s book and I downloaded it for free.  I loved the book and hopefully paid her back by writing a glowing review for Amazon and Goodreads.  I&#039;ll definitely pay full price for her NEXT book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The allure of a 99cent book in today&#8217;s economy is strong.  I&#8217;ve only bought one or two.  The big question isn&#8217;t will be buy a 99cent book, but will be by the NEXT book by that 99cent author?</p>
<p>I am embarrassed to say that there was a one day special on Donnell&#8217;s book and I downloaded it for free.  I loved the book and hopefully paid her back by writing a glowing review for Amazon and Goodreads.  I&#8217;ll definitely pay full price for her NEXT book.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy S. Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy S. Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay - if a book is free I wouldn&#039;t be wasting my money.... you get my point, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay &#8211; if a book is free I wouldn&#8217;t be wasting my money&#8230;. you get my point, right?</p>
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